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Posted - 2004.03.29 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: Rancid Mare on 29/03/2004 11:38:24
what gives ?
if the servers are in the UK why is traffic being sent all around the world ?
the given ip of the server(s) is 157.157.139.10
this is without argument routed via nIceland.
if the servers are in nIceland why dont you just say so, rather than trying to make out they are not.
im assuming no one whould be stupid enuf to have their games servers based in a cutting edge data house in docklands and then some sort of authentication server based in a considrable less robust network on the other side of the world.
as this is the only way i can see the servers being in the UK but log-on data is routed via nIceland.
whould they ? if this is the case you ought to sack your network manager and employ an inflatable doll.
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Posted - 2004.03.29 18:18:00 -
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No need to start such a rant.
no ones ranting...just interested to know what the deal is.
however i did afford a slight chuckle to myself.
Sally telling me not to rant...LOL thats class that is...
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cw.net smells like Cable & Wireless
for sure...
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Thames isn't in Iceland
i whouldnt read to much into the naming of the router.
it may well be that the router is in nIceland the name is refering to its desination router/network (Thamesside.cw.net ) in this case.
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I don't know much about routing
i know plenty.....
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but with a bit of common sense you can find out that C&W is Icelandic Telecom's business partner.
see now this is were you let yourself down Sally.
and you was doing so well at being the clever sod.
what does the fact that CW are peered with Icelandic Telecom's got to do with anything ?
i mean if you were somehow implying the peering to nIceland telecoms was some how suggested traffic is actualy going to nIceland. then technicaly we would be in agreement........ and we cannot have that now can we.
the main gist of this post is to find out why it is a player can be based in the UK on a dirty fast connection and still get sent all round the houses to get to the servers.
i can a better ping to CS servers in the USA than i can to the eve servers which are supposedly in the UK.
and that just seems real odd to me.
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Posted - 2004.03.29 18:23:00 -
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Edited by: Rancid Mare on 29/03/2004 18:31:54
Edited by: Rancid Mare on 29/03/2004 18:25:21
just for the record here is a trace from me...
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\MaxP>tracert 166.63.217.6
Tracing route to iceland-telecom-ltd.Thamesside.cw.net [166.63.217.6]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.254.254
2 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms lo0-plusnet.ptn-ag1.plus.net [195.166.128.123]
3 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms ge1-0-0-902.ptn-gw1.plus.net [212.159.1.155]
4 17 ms 20 ms 19 ms ge-4-1.metro1-londencyh00.London1.Level3.net [21
2.113.11.33]
5 19 ms 19 ms 20 ms so-1-3-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.3.29]
6 19 ms 49 ms 20 ms so-7-0-0.mp2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.3.9]
7 27 ms 26 ms 26 ms so-3-0-0.mp2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [212.187.128.
13]
8 28 ms 26 ms 26 ms ge-6-0.core1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [213.244.165.
45]
9 26 ms 29 ms 28 ms CW-Level3.Level3.net [213.244.165.246]
10 29 ms 26 ms 26 ms bcr1-so-3-0-0.Amsterdam.cw.net [208.173.211.237]
11 42 ms 27 ms 28 ms bcr1.Thamesside.cw.net [166.63.210.61]
12 27 ms 29 ms 28 ms 206.24.168.97
13 32 ms 35 ms 33 ms iceland-telecom-ltd.Thamesside.cw.net [166.63.21
7.6]
Trace complete.
can anyone tell me why im getting bounced to amsterjam and back again ? that is if im comming back to the uk and not being forwarded onto another european countries network....like nIceland for instance ?
i just read the post to make sure it was ok and it strikes me how weird that trace actualy is.
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Posted - 2004.03.29 18:40:00 -
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I think it's because you have PlusNET as your ISP, I vaguely remember that they have unusual peering arrangements.
I may be wrong though. 
you may be right actually.
i dont like plusnet as much as i dont like everyone else.
LOL....
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Posted - 2004.03.29 18:57:00 -
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Level3's primary European peering seems to be in Amsterdam not London so that's where your traffic has to go reach a peering point between Level3 and Cable&Wireless.
thats sounds like a good diagnosis to me.
silly why two large telecoms whould not peer at one of the major datacenters in the UK.
the problem is then that this is not stricktly a CCP problem and plusnet/level 13 will argue its not their problem.
is the anser then to move isp ?
i whould think many people are with plusnet in the uk or atleast with ISP who use level 13 as their main carrier.
anyone with UK Dsl and gets a sensible trace ?
can you post trace here and also which ISP.
becasue if i need to switch ISP's then so be it.
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I tend to not deride other people's network designs from the outside when I don't have all the data.
a very wise stance methinks.
dont get me wrong im not misrable 24/7...
i do have a sensitive and easy going side and can approach a subject in a manner other than bull+chinashop.
as with many of the posts on here (inc this one) people are not being intentionaly arsey, but more to do with the venting of frustration, which when pushed can lead to people temperarely acting in a fashion less civil then they whould normaly.
im a nice bloke really....my mum says so.
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